Introduction

The Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada (HSMBC) is pleased to submit to Parliament its annual report on the administration of the Access to Information Act for the reporting period commencing on April 1, 2023, and ending on March 31, 2024.

This report is prepared and tabled in accordance with the following:

  • section 94 of the Access to Information Act, which requires that the head of every federal
  • institution prepare and submit an annual report to Parliament on the administration of the Act in the institution during the fiscal year.

Purpose of the Access to Information Act

The purpose of the Access to Information Act is to enhance the accountability and transparency of federal institutions to promote an open and democratic society and to enable public debate on the conduct of those institutions. To further that purpose:

  • Part 1 extends the present laws of Canada to provide a right of access to information in records under the control of a government institution in accordance with the principles that government information should be available to the public, that necessary exceptions to the right of access should be limited and specific, and that decisions about the disclosure of government information should be reviewed independently of government.
  • Part 2 sets out requirements for the proactive publication of information.

Mandate of the Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada (the Board)

Under the Historic Sites and Monuments Act, the Board is the statutory advisory body to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change on the national historic significance of places, people, events of Canadian history. The Government of Canada has designated over 2,200 subjects of national historic significance on the advice of the HSMBC since its inception in 1919. The HSMBC is also responsible for providing advice on the designation of heritage railway stations under the Heritage Railway Stations Protection Act and on the designation of heritage lighthouses under the Heritage Lighthouse Protection Act.

The Indigenous Affairs and Cultural Heritage Directorate of Parks Canada (the Directorate), offers secretariat services to the HSMBC and receives approximately 1,000 queries annually from the public, MPs, media and heritage organizations across Canada related to the designation process, information about the HSMBC and previous HSMBC deliberations. The Directorate also processes and responds to about 50 nominations for subjects of possible national historic significance each year. It also administers the Heritage Railway Stations Protection Act, the National Program for the Grave Sites of Canadian Prime Ministers and the Heritage Lighthouse Protection Act.

In 2023-24, Parks Canada’s Access to Information and Privacy Office (ATIP) officials had the full delegated authority in relation to the Access to Information Act as it relates to the HSMBC


Organizational structure

HSMBC modified their ATIP Delegation Order in June 2023, granting full authority to Parks Canada’s Access to Information and Privacy Office.

During this reporting period, the Parks Canada ATIP office was part of the Corporate Communications Branch. The Access to Information and Privacy Office is comprised of six (6) full-time employees responsible of implementing and managing services related to the administration of the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for Parks Canada and HSMBC.

Internal tools and procedures have been developed to support the Agency in meeting its obligations under the Access to Information Act, regulations and Treasury Board policies and are regularly reviewed and improved.

HSMBC handles a relatively low number of requests received under the Access to Information Act.


Delegation order

Arrêté sur la délégation en vertu de la Loi sur l'accès à l'information et de la Loi sur la protection des renseignements personnels Access to Information Act and Privacy Act Delegation Order
En vertu de 1’article 95 de la Loi sur l'acces à l'information et de Particle 73 de la Loi sur la protection des renseignements personnels, le ministre de l'Environnement designe les titulaires des postes mentionnes a 1’annexe ainsi que les personnes occupant a titre interimaire ces postes afin qu’ils exercent les attributions, prevues a Pannexe et figurant en regard de chaque poste, du ministre de PEnvironnement a titre de responsable de la Commission des lieux et monuments historiques du Canada en vertu des dispositions de ces lois. Le present document remplace et annule tout arrete anterieur. The Minister of the Environment, under section 95 of the Access to Information Act and section 73 of the Privacy Act, designates the persons holding the positions set out in the schedule, or the persons occupying on an acting asis those positions, to exercise the powers, duties and functions of the Minister of the Environment as the head of the Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada, under the provisions of those Acts, as specified in the schedule opposite each position. This delegation replaces all previous delegation orders.
Daté, à la Ville de Gatineau, ce 22e jour de juin 2023 Dated, at the City of Gatineau, this 22nd day of June, 2023
L'original a été signé par l’honorable Steven Guilbeault
Ministre de l’Environnement
Original signed by the Honourable Steven Guilbeault
Minister of Environment
Annexe / Schedule
Poste / Position Loi sur l'accès à l'information et règlements / Access to information Act and Regulations Loi sur la protection des renseignements personnels et règlements / Privacy Act and Regulations
Vice-président, Relations externes et de l'experience du visiteur, Agence Parcs Canada /
Vice-President, External Relations and Visitor Experience, Parks Canada Agency
Autorité absolue / Full authority Autorité absolue / Full authority
Gestionnaire, Bureau de l'Accès à l'information et de la protection des renseignements personnels (AIPRP), Agence Parcs Canada /
Manager, Access to Information and Privacy Office (ATIP), Parks Canada Agency
Autorité absolue / Full authority Autorité absolue / Full authority
Analyste principal (PM-05), Bureau de l'Accès à l'information et de la protection des renseignements personnels (AIPRP), Agence Parcs Canada /
Senior analyst (PM-05), Access to Information and Privacy Office (ATIP), Parks Canada Agency
Articles 7 et 9 de la Loi sur l'accès à l'information / Sections 7 & 9 of the Access to Information Act Articles 14 et 15 de la Loi sur la protection des renseignements personnels / Sections 14 & 15 of the Privacy Act

Performance 2023-2024

The Statistical Report submitted on behalf of the HSMBC to the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat (TBS) for the period of April 1, 2023, to March 31, 2024.

Because most information requests from the public, media, scholars, businesses, and heritage organizations are related to publicly available information and submitted directly to the Directorate, very few requests are submitted under the Access to Information Act. In 2023-2024, one (1) request was received under the Access to Information Act and later abandoned.


Training and awareness

No training or awareness activities took place during this period.


Policies, guidelines, procedures and initiatives

No new policy regarding administration of the Access to Information Act was implemented during the reporting period.


Initiatives and projects to improve access to information

For the reporting period commencing on April 1, 2023, and ending on March 31, 2024, the delegation under the Access to Information Act and Privacy Act on behalf of the Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada was granted to Parks Canada employees responsible for the Parks Canada Access to Information Office. This change was implemented to ensure that access to information and privacy requests are treated by a dedicated and specialized organizational unit.


Summary of key issues and actions taken on complaints

The HSMBC did not receive any complaints and no investigations were concluded in 2023-2024; there are no issues to report in this regard.


Monitoring compliance

All Directorate officials with management responsibilities related to the HSMBC (supervisors, managers, and directors) are advised of team members’ work hours dedicated to the completion of access to information requests. In 2023-2024, no monitoring was conducted during the reporting period.


2023-2024 Statistical report on the Access to Information Act

Name of institution:Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada

Reporting period: 2023-04-01 to 2024-03-31


Section 1: Requests under the Access to Information Act

1.1 Number of requests

Number of requests
Received during reporting period 1
Outstanding from previous reporting periods 0
• Outstanding from previous reporting period 0
• Outstanding from more than one reporting period 0
Total 1
Closed during reporting period 1
Carried over to next reporting period 0
• Carried over within legislated timeline 0
• Carried over beyond legislated timeline 0

1.2 Sources of requests

Source Number of requests
Media 0
Academia 0
Business (private sector) 0
Organization 0
Public 0
Decline to Identify 1
Total 1

1.3 Channels of requests

Source Number of requests
Online 1
E-mail 0
Mail 0
In person 0
Phone 0
Fax 0
Total 1

Section 2: Informal requests

2.1 Number of informal requests

Number of requests
Received during reporting period 0
Outstanding from previous reporting periods 0
• Outstanding from previous reporting period 0
• Outstanding from more than one reporting period 0
Total 0
Closed during reporting period 0
Carried over to next reporting period 0

2.2 Channels of informal requests

Source Number of requests
Online 0
E-mail 0
Mail 0
In person 0
Phone 0
Fax 0
Total 0

2.3 Completion time of informal requests

Completion time
1 to 15 Days 16 to 30 Days 31 to 60 Days 61 to 120 Days 121 to 180 Days 181 to 365 Days More Than 365 Days Total
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

2.4 Pages released informally

Less than 100 pages released 100-500 pages released 501-1000 pages released 1001-5000 pages released More than 5000 pages released
Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

2.5 Pages re-released informally

Less than 100 pages released 100-500 pages released 501-1000 pages released 1001-5000 pages released More than 5000 pages released
Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released Number of requests Pages released
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Section 3: Applications to the Information Commissioner on declining to act on requests

Number of requests
Outstanding from previous reporting period 0
Sent during reporting period 0
Total 0
Approved by the Information Commissioner during reporting period 0
Declined by the Information Commissioner during reporting period 0
Withdrawn during reporting period 0
Carried over to next reporting period 0

Section 4: Requests closed during the reporting period

4.1 Disposition and completion time

Disposition of requests Completion time
1 to 15 Days 16 to 30 Days 31 to 60 Days 61 to 120 Days 121 to 180 Days 181 to 365 Days More Than 365 Days Total
All disclosed 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disclosed in part 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
All exempted 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
All excluded 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
No records exist 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Request transferred 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Request abandoned 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
Neither confirmed nor denied 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Declined to act with the approval of the Information Commissioner 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1

4.2 Exemptions

Section Number of requests Section Number of requests Section Number of requests Section Number of requests
13(1)(a) 0 16(2) 0 18(a) 0 20.1 0
13(1)(b) 0 16(2)(a) 0 18(b) 0 20.2 0
13(1)(c) 0 16(2)(b) 0 18(c) 0 20.4 0
13(1)(d) 0 16(2)(c) 0 18(d) 0 21(1)(a) 0
13(1)(e) 0 16(3) 0 18.1(1)(a) 0 21(1)(b) 0
14 0 16.1(1)(a) 0 18.1(1)(b) 0 21(1)(c) 0
14(a) 0 16.1(1)(b) 0 18.1(1)(c) 0 21(1)(d) 0
14(b) 0 16.1(1)(c) 0 18.1(1)(d) 0 22 0
15(1) 0 16.1(1)(d) 0 19(1) 0 22.1(1) 0
15(1) - I.A.* 0 16.2(1) 0 20(1)(a) 0 23 0
15(1) - Def.* 0 16.3 0 20(1)(b) 0 23.1 0
15(1) - S.A.* 0 16.4(1)(a) 0 20(1)(b.1) 0 24(1) 0
16(1)(a)(i) 0 16.4(1)(b) 0 20(1)(c) 0 26 0
16(1)(a)(ii) 0 16.5 0 20(1)(d) 0
16(1)(a)(iii) 0 16.6 0
16(1)(b) 0 17 0
16(1)(c) 0
16(1)(d) 0
* I.A.: International Affairs Def.: Defence of Canada S.A.: Subversive Activities

4.3 Exclusions

Section Number of requests Section Number of requests Section Number of requests
68(a) 0 69(1) 0 69(1)(g) re (a) 0
68(b) 0 69(1)(a) 0 69(1)(g) re (b) 0
68(c) 0 69(1)(b) 0 69(1)(g) re (c) 0
68.1 0 69(1)(c) 0 69(1)(g) re (d) 0
68.2(a) 0 69(1)(d) 0 69(1)(g) re (e) 0
68.2(b) 0 69(1)(e) 0 69(1)(g) re (f) 0
69(1)(f) 0 69.1(1) 0

4.4 Format of information released

Paper Electronic Other
E-record Data set Video Audio
0 0 0 0 0 0

4.5 Complexity

4.5.1 Relevant pages processed and disclosed for paper and e-record formats

Number of pages processed Number of pages disclosed Number of requests
0 0 1

4.5.2 Relevant pages processed per request disposition for paper and e-record formats by size of requests

Disposition Less than 100 pages processed 100-500 pages processed 501-1000 pages processed 1001-5000 pages processed More than 5000 pages processed
Number of requests Pages processed Number of requests Pages processed Number of requests Pages processed Number of requests Pages processed Number of requests Pages processed
All disclosed 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disclosed in part 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
All exempted 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
All excluded 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Request abandoned 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Neither confirmed nor denied 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Declined to act with the approval of the Information Commissioner 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

4.5.3 Relevant minutes processed and disclosed for audio formats

Number of minutes processed Number of minutes disclosed Number of requests
0 0 0

4.5.4 Relevant minutes processed per request disposition for audio formats by size of requests

Disposition Less than 60 minutes processed 60 - 120 minutes processed More than 120 minutes processed
Number of requests Minutes processed Number of requests Minutes processed Number of requests Minutes processed
All disclosed 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disclosed in part 0 0 0 0 0 0
All exempted 0 0 0 0 0 0
All excluded 0 0 0 0 0 0
Request abandoned 0 0 0 0 0 0
Neither confirmed nor denied 0 0 0 0 0 0
Declined to act with the approval of the Information Commissioner 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0 0 0

4.5.5 Relevant minutes processed and disclosed for video formats

Number of minutes processed Number of minutes disclosed Number of requests
0 0 0

4.5.6 Relevant minutes processed per request disposition for video formats by size of requests

Disposition Less than 60 minutes processed 60 - 120 minutes processed More than 120 minutes processed
Number of requests Minutes processed Number of requests Minutes processed Number of requests Minutes processed
All disclosed 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disclosed in part 0 0 0 0 0 0
All exempted 0 0 0 0 0 0
All excluded 0 0 0 0 0 0
Request abandoned 0 0 0 0 0 0
Neither confirmed nor denied 0 0 0 0 0 0
Declined to act with the approval of the Information Commissioner 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0 0 0

4.5.7 Other complexities

Disposition Consultation required Legal advice sought Other Total
All disclosed 0 0 0 0
Disclosed in part 0 0 0 0
All exempted 0 0 0 0
All excluded 0 0 0 0
Request abandoned 0 0 0 0
Neither confirmed nor denied 0 0 0 0
Declined to act with the approval of the Information Commissioner 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0

4.6 Closed requests

4.6.1 Requests closed within legislated timelines

Number of requests closed within legislated timelines 1
Percentage of requests closed within legislated timelines (%) 100

4.7 Deemed refusals

4.7.1 Reasons for not meeting legislated timelines

Number of requests closed past the legislated timelines Principal reason
Interference with operations/ Workload External consultation Internal consultation Other
0 0 0 0 0

4.7.2 Requests closed beyond legislated timelines (including any extension taken)

Number of days past legislated timelines Number of requests past legislated timeline where no extension was taken Number of requests past legislated timeline where an extension was taken Total
1 to 15 days 0 0 0
16 to 30 days 0 0 0
31 to 60 days 0 0 0
61 to 120 days 0 0 0
121 to 180 days 0 0 0
181 to 365 days 0 0 0
More than 365 days 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0

4.8 Requests for translation

Translation requests Accepted Refused Total
English to French 0 0 0
French to English 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0

Section 5: Extensions

5.1  Reasons for extensions and disposition of requests

Disposition of requests where an extension was taken 9(1)(a) Interference With Operations/ Workload 9(1)(b) Consultation 9(1)(c) Third-Party Notice
Section 69 Other
All disclosed 0 0 0 0
Disclosed in part 0 0 0 0
All exempted 0 0 0 0
All excluded 0 0 0 0
Request abandoned 0 0 0 0
No records exist 0 0 0 0
Declined to act with the approval of the Information Commissioner 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0

5.2 Length of extensions

Length of extensions 9(1)(a) Interference With Operations/ Workload 9(1)(b) Consultation 9(1)(c) Third-Party Notice
Section 69 Other
30 days or less 0 0 0 0
31 to 60 days 0 0 0 0
61 to 120 days 0 0 0 0
121 to 180 days 0 0 0 0
181 to 365 days 0 0 0 0
365 days or more 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0

Section 6: Fees

Fee type Fee collected Fee waived Fee refunded
Number of requests Amount Number of requests Amount Number of requests Amount
Application 1 $5.00 0 $0.00 0 $0.00
Other fees 0 $0.00 0 $0.00 0 $0.00
Total 1 $5.00 0 $0.00 0 $0.00

Section 7: Consultations received from other institutions and organizations

7.1  Consultations received from other Government of Canada institutions and other organizations

Consultations Other Government of Canada institutions Number of pages to review Other organizations Number of pages to review
Received during the reporting period 0 0 0 0
Outstanding from the previous reporting period 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0
Closed during the reporting period 0 0 0 0
Carried over within negotiated timelines 0 0 0 0
Carried over beyond negotiated timelines 0 0 0 0

7.2 Recommendations and completion time for consultations received from other Government of Canada institutions

Recommendation Number of days required to complete consultation requests
1 to 15 days 16 to 30 days 31 to 60 days 61 to 120 days 121 to 180 days 181 to 365 days More than 365 days Total
Disclose entirely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disclose in part 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Exempt entirely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Exclude entirely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Consult other institution 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Other 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

7.3 Recommendations and completion time for consultations received from other organizations outside the Government of Canada

Recommendation Number of days required to complete consultation requests
1 to 15 days 16 to 30 days 31 to 60 days 61 to 120 days 121 to 180 days 181 to 365 days More than 365 days Total
Disclose entirely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Disclose in part 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Exempt entirely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Exclude entirely 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Consult other institution 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Other 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Section 8: Completion time of consultations on cabinet confidences

8.1 Requests with Legal Services

Number of days Fewer than 100 pages processed 100-500 pages processed 501-1000 pages processed 1001-5000 pages processed More than 5000 pages processed
Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed
1 to 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
16 to 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
31 to 60 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
61 to 120 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
121 to 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
181 to 365 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
More than 365 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

8.2 Requests with Privy Council Office

Number of days Fewer than 100 pages processed 100-500 pages processed 501-1000 pages processed 1001-5000 pages processed More than 5000 pages processed
Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed Number of requests Pages disclosed
1 to 15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
16 to 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
31 to 60 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
61 to 120 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
121 to 180 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
181 to 365 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
More than 365 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Section 9: Investigations and reports of finding

9.1 Investigations

Section 32 Notice of intention to investigate Subsection 30(5) Ceased to investigate Section 35 Formal Representations
0 0 0

9.2 Investigations and Reports of finding

Section 37(1) Initial Reports Section 37(2) Final Reports
Received Containing recommendations issued by the Information Commissioner Containing orders issued by the Information Commissioner Received Containing recommendations issued by the Information Commissioner Containing orders issued by the Information Commissioner
0 0 0 0 0 0

Section 10: Court action

10.1 Court actions on complaints

Section 41
Complainant (1) Institution (2) Third Party (3) Privacy Commissioner (4) Total
0 0 0 0 0

10.2 Court actions on third party notifications under paragraph 28(1)(b)

Section 44 - under paragraph 28(1)(b)
0

Section 11: Resources related to the Access to Information Act

11.1 Allocated costs

Expenditures Amount
Salaries $0
Overtime $0
Goods and services $0
• Professional services contracts $0
• Other $0
Total $0

11.2  Human resources

Resources Person years dedicated to access to information activities
Full-time employees 0.000
Part-time and casual employees 0.000
Regional staff 0.000
Consultants and agency personnel 0.000
Students 0.000
Total 0.000

Supplemental statistical report on the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act

Name of institution: Historic Sites and Monuments Board of Canada

Reporting period: 2023-04-01 to 2024-03-31


Section 1: Open requests and complaints under the Access to Information Act

1.1 Enter the number of open requests that are outstanding from previous reporting periods

Fiscal Year Open Requests Were Received Open Requests that are Within Legislated Timelines as of March 31, 2024 Open Requests that are Beyond Legislated Timelines as of March 31, 2024 Total
Received in 2023-2024 0 0 0
Received in 2022-2023 0 0 0
Received in 2021-2022 0 0 0
Received in 2020-2021 0 0 0
Received in 2019-2020 0 0 0
Received in 2018-2019 0 0 0
Received in 2017-2018 0 0 0
Received in 2016-2017 0 0 0
Received in 2015-2016 0 0 0
Received in 2014-2015 or earlier 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0

1.2 Enter the number of open complaints with the Information Commissioner of Canada that are outstanding from previous reporting periods

Fiscal Year Open Complaints Were Received by Institution Number of Open Complaints
Received in 2023-2024 0
Received in 2022-2023 0
Received in 2021-2022 0
Received in 2020-2021 0
Received in 2019-2020 0
Received in 2018-2019 0
Received in 2017-2018 0
Received in 2016-2017 0
Received in 2015-2016 0
Received in 2014-2015 or earlier 0
Total 0

Section 2: Open requests and complaints under the Privacy Act

2.1 Enter the number of open requests that are outstanding from previous reporting periods

Fiscal Year Open Requests Were Received Open Requests that are Within Legislated Timelines as of March 31, 2024 Open Requests that are Beyond Legislated Timelines as of March 31, 2024 Total
Received in 2023-2024 0 0 0
Received in 2022-2023 0 0 0
Received in 2021-2022 0 0 0
Received in 2020-2021 0 0 0
Received in 2019-2020 0 0 0
Received in 2018-2019 0 0 0
Received in 2017-2018 0 0 0
Received in 2016-2017 0 0 0
Received in 2015-2016 0 0 0
Received in 2014-2015 or earlier 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0

2.2 Enter the number of open complaints with the Privacy Commissioner of Canada that are outstanding from previous reporting periods

Fiscal Year Open Complaints Were Received by Institution Number of Open Complaints
Received in 2023-2024 0
Received in 2022-2023 0
Received in 2021-2022 0
Received in 2020-2021 0
Received in 2019-2020 0
Received in 2018-2019 0
Received in 2017-2018 0
Received in 2016-2017 0
Received in 2015-2016 0
Received in 2014-2015 or earlier 0
Total 0

Section 3: Social Insurance Number

Has your institution begun a new collection or a new consistent use of the SIN in 2023-2024? No

Section 4: Universal access under the Privacy Act

How many requests were received from confirmed foreign nationals outside of Canada in 2023-2024? 0

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